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Post by kelly on Mar 28, 2007 11:51:59 GMT
After tones of water changes i still cant get rid of brown water from bogwood thats been in my tank for well over a year. i didn't mind it at first but now i absolutely hate it,is there anything i can do?
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Post by jackpike on Mar 28, 2007 12:38:54 GMT
is it a big piece of bogwood?
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Post by kelly on Mar 28, 2007 12:49:14 GMT
yes one large piece and 3 smaller pieces
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Post by jackpike on Mar 28, 2007 15:12:15 GMT
Brown water will lessen with time, but with extra large pieces of bog wood it could take a very long time.
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Post by mralgae on Mar 28, 2007 17:56:50 GMT
this may well not sound good considering you have plants as far as i can remember? but use carbon in your filter. unless you have a high tech planted set up using carbon in a planted tank always raises the eybrows and is said to be a BIG no no with some people, but IT CAN BE USED in MODERATION with out upsetting the balance of the tank for the plants. the carbon will remove the tannins short term NOT long term in the tank and as long as you dont over do it, it will keep it at bay for you. i have an article somewere teling exactly what carbon removes from the water, i will find it and post for you and then you can decide if to use it or not. no dout you have seen & read some of my problems i have had, most but not all have helped to get back on track using carbon in my tanks and always have some on stand by just in case. happy days
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Post by jackpike on Mar 28, 2007 23:33:49 GMT
I'm the same here don't use carbon anymore because i have plants in my tanks, but i do keep some for a rainy day.
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Post by dave on Mar 28, 2007 23:36:12 GMT
JP,you wouldnt have been able to say that living in Dalwhinnie!
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Post by karen on Mar 29, 2007 19:56:05 GMT
What you can also do is take out some your wood and boil each piece again for a couple of days that should help a lot.
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Post by mralgae on Mar 29, 2007 20:24:10 GMT
like i said using carbon in a planted tank is not all bad, here is the the table of what carbon gets rid of. i might add this is not mine only borrowed Absorption Potential of Various Substances by Activated Carbon High to very good Arsenic, bleach, chloramine, chlorine, chromium, colors, dyes, gold, insecticide, odors, monochloramine, tin Good to Moderate Acetic acid, cobalt, detergent, hydrogen sulfide, mercury, ozone, potassium, silver, soap, solvents, vinegar Fair Copper, iron (not chelated), lead nickel, titanium, vanadium Low to None Alkalinity, ammonia, barium, carbon dioxide, hardness, copper, manganese, nitrates, selenium, molybdenum, zinc. as you can see by the chart most of the items in the high range are what we dont want in any tank. and the items in the low to none are the ones that plants need, the only exception to this is the good range:which takes out potassium, but again no full evidence is available about potassium and plants, nearly all high tech nano aquarists add potassium because it does no harm, not evidenting that it helps in adding it any way. happy days
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Post by jon on Apr 1, 2007 11:17:23 GMT
like i said using carbon in a planted tank is not all bad, here is the the table of what carbon gets rid of. i might add this is not mine only borrowed Absorption Potential of Various Substances by Activated Carbon High to very good Arsenic, bleach, chloramine, chlorine, chromium, colors, dyes, gold, insecticide, odors, monochloramine, tin Good to Moderate Acetic acid, cobalt, detergent, hydrogen sulfide, mercury, ozone, potassium, silver, soap, solvents, vinegar Fair Copper, iron (not chelated), lead nickel, titanium, vanadium Low to None Alkalinity, ammonia, barium, carbon dioxide, hardness, copper, manganese, nitrates, selenium, molybdenum, zinc. as you can see by the chart most of the items in the high range are what we dont want in any tank. and the items in the low to none are the ones that plants need, the only exception to this is the good range:which takes out potassium, but again no full evidence is available about potassium and plants, nearly all high tech nano aquarists add potassium because it does no harm, not evidenting that it helps in adding it any way. happy days Great information Mrlagae!
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Post by kelly on Apr 1, 2007 12:37:11 GMT
like i said using carbon in a planted tank is not all bad, here is the the table of what carbon gets rid of. i might add this is not mine only borrowed Absorption Potential of Various Substances by Activated Carbon High to very good Arsenic, bleach, chloramine, chlorine, chromium, colors, dyes, gold, insecticide, odors, monochloramine, tin Good to Moderate Acetic acid, cobalt, detergent, hydrogen sulfide, mercury, ozone, potassium, silver, soap, solvents, vinegar Fair Copper, iron (not chelated), lead nickel, titanium, vanadium Low to None Alkalinity, ammonia, barium, carbon dioxide, hardness, copper, manganese, nitrates, selenium, molybdenum, zinc. as you can see by the chart most of the items in the high range are what we dont want in any tank. and the items in the low to none are the ones that plants need, the only exception to this is the good range:which takes out potassium, but again no full evidence is available about potassium and plants, nearly all high tech nano aquarists add potassium because it does no harm, not evidenting that it helps in adding it any way. happy days mralgae how long do you suggest i run carbon for?
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Post by mralgae on Apr 1, 2007 20:02:57 GMT
if your tank is not heavy planted i would leave it in for 2 weeks at a time, but moitor the water stats on a weekly basis untill you get used to how it effects them. if it has little or no effect on the water stats i would run with carbon for 2 weeks at a time, e.g 2 weeks with carbon then 2 weeks without. if you feel it is working and no effects then leave it in longer. depending on the full set and monitoring of the tank if you see any serious effects then take it out but you shouldnt see any thing serious happening except clear water.
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Post by kelly on Apr 6, 2007 18:33:15 GMT
great i have carbon running at the moment so i'll leave it in for 2 weeks then see what happens.
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Post by mralgae on Apr 7, 2007 8:38:19 GMT
you shoud start to see a difference in clear water in a couple of days. but like i said keep an eye on the stats and your plants. if you start to see any major changes then remove the carbon.
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Post by kelly on Apr 9, 2007 8:47:13 GMT
so far so good no problems yet!
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