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Post by mralgae on Feb 28, 2007 21:12:40 GMT
sorry not been around much but had few probs with the new 240 tank. not so much bothered about stats at the moment as the plants seem to be holding well after a scary start. the problem is cloudy water, very very cloudy water. even after doing a 75% wc 2 days ago the cloud is back again tonight. i think it could be down to the filter media that came with the ehiem ecco. (they are little white balls) which seem to be breaking down and turning to dust and then circulating into the tank causing the cloud. now i might be wrong on this and it could be somthing else as i was dosing at the start but would say by now with the wc i have done and the stats that they have all been depleated. and i am back to the start with cloudy water again. has any body had or heard of any one having this type of problem. i realy am at a loss now and cant think of anything else to do that i havnt done. any help please.
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Post by karen on Feb 28, 2007 22:16:26 GMT
Well as you know cloudy water happens when setting up a new tank but i think you could be right about the filter media,What does it do and does it need to be in your filter or can you remove it?
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Post by mralgae on Feb 28, 2007 22:25:33 GMT
the media acts like the green filter in the jewel system for the bactiria to colonise. it also has a white pad and a blue pad to filter the dirt out. i wa expecting some cloud but this is crazy. it is more like a fog across the liffy, haha, so bad the night b4 last couldnt even see the plants at the back of the tank.
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Post by mralgae on Feb 28, 2007 22:29:13 GMT
what i have done tonight as a test, is install a fluval internal and turned off the ehiem to see if that will clear the cloud, if it does then it is defo the ehiem. i know this is going to mess up the tank cycle a bit but its the last thing i can think of that i havnt done.
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Post by karen on Feb 28, 2007 22:38:47 GMT
yep i think you did they right thing i know it will mess up the cycle a bit but i wouldn't worry about it unless you need to get fish into shortly.
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Post by dumpystig on Feb 28, 2007 22:39:34 GMT
Did you remember to wash your balls first? Sorry, couldn't resist
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Post by karen on Feb 28, 2007 22:43:36 GMT
Did you remember to wash your balls first? Sorry, couldn't resist Dumpystig your bold
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Post by dumpystig on Feb 28, 2007 22:46:24 GMT
Hope nobody is offended, my Scouse humour sometimes gets me in trouble but I'm a nice bloke really.... honest
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Post by mralgae on Feb 28, 2007 22:51:11 GMT
Did you remember to wash your balls first? Sorry, couldn't resist dumpystig. you little devel but you know what? no i didnt, nothing in the instructions about doing that. i cant believe i so stupid. i think you just hit on the answer. just read the instructions again, defo nothing there, but does say they can be washed over & over again. stupid ,stupid, stupid , me.
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Post by dumpystig on Feb 28, 2007 22:51:48 GMT
And my reply is also sensible, The first time I used filter wool I didn't rinse it, and what was the result...? My poor fish swimming on the set of a Jack the ripper movie! haha! So I DO talk from (in)experience
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Post by karen on Feb 28, 2007 22:52:57 GMT
lol i would never of thought of that.
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Post by mralgae on Feb 28, 2007 22:55:12 GMT
trust a second scouser(me to) to come up with the answer.
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Post by janette on Mar 1, 2007 13:44:35 GMT
Hi Mralgea if your fluval or ehiem are new the most likely cause of cloudy water in a newly filled tank is a high level of dissolved constituents such as phosphates, silicates, or heavy metals. but i think you already know this, If you test the water, you'll no doubt find the pH is high (alkaline). , treating the water with conditioners will often resolve the problem. Often cloudy water doesn't appear the instant an aquarium is set up. Instead it appears days, weeks, or even months later. In these cases the cause is usually due to bacterial bloom. As the new aquarium and filters goes through the initial break in cycle, it is not unusual for the water to become cloudy, or at least a little hazy. It will take several weeks to several months to establish bacterial colonies that are able to clear wastes from the water. Over time that cloudiness will resolve itself. but i found that smaller water changes are better than larger ones ...ohh and throw a prawn out of the freezer in there ,that will help it cycle hope this helps a bit
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Post by mralgae on Mar 1, 2007 18:28:37 GMT
well i did another BIG wc today, cleaned out the filter and washed me balls about an hour after all this the cloud started to form again. its not the water as there is nothing wrong with the other tank, i think it is down to the media, washed or unwashed, breaking down in some way. so i am going to change it and get bio balls from lfs tomorrow, if after i change the media the cloud forms again then i dont know what it could be. the cloud its self looks as if it is full of dust like material floating around the tank. i have had cloud in the smaller tank which i put down to bactira bloom and this looks nothing like that. fingers crossed i should know by the weekend how it will work out.
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Post by mralgae on Mar 4, 2007 6:29:16 GMT
trust me to keep up with my name
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