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Post by mralgae on Jan 3, 2007 22:49:17 GMT
ok guys & girls im gona traet myself to a new tank as a belated xmas present. going for a 4ft, approx 100/120L. so i need all your help on this as to any probs with this size of tank etc. it will be stocked full of algae, not.haha. full plant set up and prob angels etc for fish. my problem is that with this size tank would it be best to stay with the likes of the jewel rio 180type with filters as standard or just a plain tank and add the external filters and designed lighting?
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Post by jackpike on Jan 3, 2007 23:28:03 GMT
If u want to do a planted tank it might be an idea to get a plain tank and add that extra strong designed lighting for your plants. There is one drawback with juwel tanks i don't think its all that easy to upgrade the lighting.
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Post by mralgae on Jan 3, 2007 23:35:36 GMT
the lighting on the jewel prob not the best but not bad to upgrade as i did with the 60 by g the extra tube. more concerned about the filter, as if it is strong enuf and good enuf for the size of the tank, dont want to get it and then end up ripping it out and putting in an external. plus the loss of space taken up by the filter. do you have any probs with yours in your 180?
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Post by jackpike on Jan 4, 2007 12:17:33 GMT
Most larger juwel tanks have light bars which hold two tubes and removable panels that slot into the light bar and this all fits inside the tanks rim, It would be very hard to add extra lights because there in not much space between the water surface and the removeable lids and light bar. The box filter sits in the corner, it doesn't take up that much space and u can't adjust the water flow from the filter. But in a planted tank u don't want too much water movement so i point the water flow above my plants, but not high enough to break the surface of the water. This stops extra O2 getting into the water which stops O2 driving off CO2 and helps my plants to grow a bit better. The box filter does have an advantage over an external filter, It is ultra-quiet. Juwel makes nice and neat looking aquariums and i have never regretted buying mines, but they do have some downfalls.
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Post by mralgae on Jan 4, 2007 12:43:27 GMT
decissions,decissions, haha. good point on the c02. i have and still am looking into this area. have found out from others that some acctually inject it into the filter and others in direct line with the output of the water flow so it gets mixed in with the flow of water direct. which contradicts the normal of keeping the c02 away from airiation.
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Post by jackpike on Jan 4, 2007 12:53:58 GMT
It was my understanding that high water movement increases O2 in water, So if u have high water movement or u airate u are driving off C02. Making CO2 injection a complete waste of time.
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Post by mralgae on Jan 4, 2007 13:12:08 GMT
thats exactly what i was lead to believe but obviously some take a different view to this and it works for them, even threads as to the way they set them up with pics etc. havnt mentioned this b4 cos i dont know if it realy does work. but like i said it works for those who do it. even a new site i just joined some do the same thing.
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Post by jackpike on Jan 4, 2007 13:38:36 GMT
So what u are saying is they inject CO2 through the air intake under the juwel water pump which then spits out the CO2 into the tank. I don't know, i just think it would be a waste of time, they probably get the same growth rate as non CO2 injected tank. But i suppose u could experiment try this method, or inject CO2 straight into calm water or not injecting CO2 atoll and see how the growth results compare.
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Post by karen on Jan 4, 2007 19:54:25 GMT
Mr algae have you had a look at the jinlong tanks at petshoponline?
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